Since her debut in 2004, Natassia Dreams has been a pillar in the adult industry, appearing in hundreds of films and scenes for leading studios, and directing award-winning scenes herself. Natassia is also a staple model in the fashion world which is shocking to no one, I mean, did you see her at the Pornhub x Luis De Javier runway show at NYFW?
Dreams’ dedication to using her voice and platform to create awareness and visibility for the transgender community is just one of the reasons we’re proud to have her on our team. As a member and advocate for the Black trans community, she embodies our commitment to celebrating individuality and self-expression.
On the latest episode of the Pornhub Podcast, host Asa Akira and Natassia catch up to discuss all things penis-n-pussy! They’re looking at the Year In Review results that saw an increase in searches for trans porn, and Natassia opens up about her post-op experience. Check out a preview below:
Asa: The Pornhub Year In Review came out, which is an article of all their data and the most searched-for terms of the year. It's interesting because “trans” is a category that has been growing every year and again, this year it's in the top 20. We’re seeing trans women in media more than ever now. I'm curious to know from your point of view, is that good or bad, or kind of both? It must feel good when things get normalized, but on the other hand, you’re still being fetishized.
Natassia: It can be both. I notice that porn has attracted more cis-hetero men to penis. I've spoken to a lot of men, since they've got this fantasy about penis now. That's what they focus on when they're watching and pleasuring themselves. So, I feel like this huge fetishization about penis is very open now. So, what I think happens is men are afraid to go with another man. So, they'll take the next thing, which is a trans woman because they like women, but they have this fetishization with penis.
I've heard men tell me, "I love women, but I love to suck a dick." Where is this coming from? And it comes from porn. So, the good thing about it is, the guys are more open to be with trans women, but it's also a fetishization. I realized in this experience and my new experience as gender confirmed, men are seeking me out now because they know that I'm trans. I'm very open that I'm trans, but then they lose interest when I don't have a penis.
It's like a double-edged sword. I'm happy that girls are getting the recognition and men are wanting to date trans women. My therapist told me she had a conversation with one of her clients and he said, “I want to date a trans woman.” She’s like, "Well, why do you want to date a trans woman? What are you going to do to protect her and not fetishize her?"
Because what happens is, it's a curiosity thing. They want to meet us behind closed doors. They want to have sex with us, but then they treat us like objects, like masturbation material. And you know, we have feelings. We're humans, we want love. Most of us have been transitioned for so long that there's no reason to be ashamed to be seen with us.
Asa: About what your therapist was saying, “how are you going to protect her,” I mean like, what is the answer to that? Like just being normal and cool about her?
Natassia: I know when I tell guys on dating apps, for example, I'm trans, it goes from, "Let's go out and hang out and dinners and movies," to "Are you coming to my house or am I coming to your house?" And I'm like, "What happened to the courting? What happened to the wining and dining? What happened to you earning my sex instead of you just thinking that it's guaranteed to you because I'm trans?” And it just goes out the window.
What men have to do is just treat us the way they treat women. When you meet a girl on a dating app, you take her to coffee, you take her to dinner, you take her to the movies, you have a couple of dates, so you guys can become comfortable. You show that you're not ashamed of sharing your time and your space with this person.
Asa: Yeah. Like just be normal!
Natassia: People are like, "I don't know what to do. I don't know how to treat you." I say, "Treat me how you would treat anyone else that you meet on the street. There's nothing different.”
Listen to their full conversation available now on the Pornhub Podcast.
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